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Never seen anyone wearing them or promoting/showing it off
I’ve seen a few people making fun of it, and that’s the only reason I know it exists
This is America: you’re either a duper or a dupee.
I’m a duper.
You guys are the dupees.
You guys all think I’m a hero and I’ll accept that responsibility
Seems like most people are saying “this is dope for media,” and outside of that, it’s a glorified dev kit.
Yes, “media”. That’s what I call porn too. That said, get a real VR headset.
Eh, I’m not buying the thing, but at least they’re doing some different stuff and have made some advancements for computing in AR / VR.
I don’t see how this is any less “real” than the other headsets. It’s better with productivity and some multimedia stuff because of the crazy high PPI displays, but it also lacks a good game library at the moment, and the price to entry is pretty nuts.
Well it’s an AR headset. They have different design goals.
Its not AR, an AR headset is something like HoloLens, this is just a VR headset with your eyes on the front.
It’s being marketed as an AR headset, but it’s fully sealed and you can totally load up VR environments in it with no pass through.
IMHO, they’re not mentioning “VR” in the marketing because the pure VR software library is anemic, and the mixed reality / AR hardware and software is really good.
Do we really want to live in a world where people are walking around with these things on their face, gesturing around like they are insane?
It’s bad enough to witness how awful public spaces have become since smartphones came out, but this is next level zombie.
It is inevitable to a degree. Obviously this is not the final form and I’m sure the goal is to make a more fashionable solution that fits into their phone/watch/airpods kind of edc strategy. But no doubt we’ll have a future where info is right there if we want it. This thing is the foray into developing that eventual product for Apple. To me it looks real dumb, but a sleeker version in the future that looks like glasses…well shit it might be nice to watch a show while washing dishes idk.
I was looking forward to the Google glass. Not because it was Google but because if a heavy hitter drops something more usually follow. To bad it flopped. I would love having something like that instead of my phone. Especially once there’s prescription versions of them.
I just want smart glasses like a smart watch. Show me notifications, let me decline calls, etc. I don’t want all the VR crap, just like 4 lines of text.
I like to Google for questions I have. I would like for at least that much. Im with you on the rest. I don’t need for it to have video or anything like that. Just basic features and text googling.
Given the ability to verbally ask a gpt something now, the goggles would have been a great thing to release in about a year from now.
That’s why they released the pro now, so in a year when they release the $1000 “cheap” ones people will jump at the opportunity to be a part of the “in” crowd. 🤮
But no doubt we’ll have a future where info is right there if we want it.
But we’re already there. It’s called a smartphone.
The value add of replacing a pocket watch or a cellphone with a device about the same size that also fits in your pocket but also gives you access to all the world’s information in seconds is immense. And that’s why the smartphone revolutionized the world.
The value add of having that information strapped to your face at all times is… just not worth the physical discomfort of having said device strapped to your face.
I say this as a VR user. A device strapped over your face really sucks and you can’t wait to take it off. The only reason to tolerate it is that that’s the only way to trick your senses into thinking you are somewhere else.
It would be ar glasses I’d think, not a headset with a strap. At least that would be my guess as to the end state.
I think they meant in the future when the form factor is the same as wearing glasses.
My glasses are on my face every minute of every day, except when showering and sleeping. I’m uncomfortable when they’re not there - and not just because I can’t see, but because I’m so used to it.
That’s probably the future - people being uncomfortable if a screen isn’t in their vision every waking moment, because it’s as physically comfortable and as “normal” as wearing glasses, and more comfortable than looking down at a phone.
It’d be an amazing feat for technology, but similarly as dystopian as having a social media-feeding PC in your pocket, or just any PC if you’re another generation older. Future people will eat it up though, just like we eat up the phones.
Now I’m imagining marketing where the old millennials are staring at their phones, and the young people are complaining about how grandpa never engages with other human beings or makes eye contact - but they’re still scrolling TikTok while talking to him.
Yea, while it’s way out of my price range and looks a little goofy, this is exactly what I’ve been hoping for as the next step to VR. AR (or whatever Apple wants to call it) is super fascinating, and will be pretty much the main reason for me to get a headset in the first place.
While it may have issues, I’m really excited to see how the market reacts to it, hopefully occulus or another company will try and compete. Feels weird to say, but I’m hoping Apple finds success with it
Sliders on Peacock Season 4 Episode 4, “Virtual Slide”. Worth watching as this episode from 1998 realistically conveys the dystopian potential of VR/AR headsets. The headsets are centrally controlled and wirelessly networked. Topics covered include privacy violations, IP theft, manipulation of reality, social decay, virtual image and body autonomy, nested reality. It’s only taken 26 years to create a convincing reality that allows someone to wear the headset publicly with minimal problems. The fact that Apple hit the target on a 1.0 product is actually frightening. What will another 30 years of development bring?
Do we really want to live in a world where people are walking around with these things on their face, gesturing around like they are insane?
You’ve seen someone talk on radio earbuds when the phone’s in their pocket? It’s the second most creepy thing I’ve ever seen with a phone conversation.
I’ve had people looking at me while they are talking to people on concealed earbuds. It’s embarrassing if you respond to them as if they were actually talking to you. But how would you know who the hell they are talking to? 🤷♂️
If people can behave, I don’t care what they wear or what they watch
I want you to imagine a subway car, where 50% of the people have these on their face.
They are waving their hands around, sometimes accidentally hitting other passengers because of it.
They are too distracted to even catch their stop, so there’s always extra chaos because of it.
Some are using apps that record what they are seeing and makes other passengers “naked” in their headset, which they share online. Privacy is a thing of the past because they can record what they see.
Imagine nobody being able to even have a conversation with other people, or make human connections with strangers, because the person across from them has a digital mask on, and you have no idea if they are even aware of what’s going on around them.
Sure, you can have a great number of people “behaving” in this scenario, but is this something you want society to become? I don’t. It deprives the human experience to an absurd extent.
I’m sorry, but do you just talk to strangers on the subway?
We already have smartphones that everyone is looking at anyway.
Before that we had newspapers.
You are making up an imaginary dystopia to peddle fear for no reason.
I’m sorry, but do you just talk to strangers on the subway?
I very often greet people, say polite things, perhaps engage in some light conversation with strangers. It’s quite human to have these social interactions.
We already have smartphones that everyone is looking at anyway.
Yes, which is already bad enough. Why make it worse by having them on our faces?
Before that we had newspapers.
True, but newspapers didn’t take people out of the environment they were in - it was simply an object within that environment in which people were still fully able to interact with the outside world uninhibited.
These headsets are designed to remove you from reality, while you are still in it. =
You are making up an imaginary dystopia to peddle fear for no reason.
Nah, I just see where corporate interests are trying to move society, and I’m concerned about the negative impacts it will have.
These headsets are designed to remove you from reality, while you are still in it. How does AR/MR do that? Phones are more about that than AR/MR. Or even newspapers, which very rarely are about the thing you are actively doing and can be used as a physical barrier to separate you from other people. Unlike a pair of glasses…
Old people usually strike a conversation.
About 200,000 years of history proves that we cannot lol
Did you not see the video of the guy wearing his new tim apple ski goggles, in his semi-self driving Tesla cyber truck?
What makes you think people can behave?
Those are fake, the apple vision pro bugs ten fuck out when it’s I a moving car, so they couldn’t have been using it. Its all for clout.
Wh do you care?
I’m old enough to remember the advent of two of the most annoying pieces of electronics ever…
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The Bluetooth earpiece - which made everyone having a conversation look like they were either talking to themselves or possibly schizophrenic.
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Those god-awful push to talk walkie talkie type phones from mainly Nextel - which not only made you privy to the both parties conversation but had the freaking awfully loud and obnoxious beep in between switching parties talking. I wanted to strangle anyone using one in a restaurant.
I’m not sure that as a species we are capable of being present in the moment and not searching for that next hit of dopamine from a device with a screen. And Lord knows I’m as guilty as the next person.
I’ve had the Nextel beep as my SMS tone for almost 20 years now. Phone is usually on vibrate but the tone is there.
… I also have the “science is fun” song from Portal as my ringtone because it starts out with a noise that I can hear above the din and quickly gets really loud if I didn’t hear it. I had it as the Turret “hello?” sequence for a bit but that was super creepy.
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Yeah, but they have it, and in the end, isn’t that what matters?? /s
Honestly, I think they might say the same thing without the /s.
So they bought Expensive Apple Thing because Expensive Apple Thing? I’ve had a decent quality HMD for a couple years. It’s a lot of fun and pretty amazing initially, especially if you have a game or two that really takes advantage of it. However, as a utility, it leaves a lot to be desired. I was really hoping to do CAD with it, there were some modestly priced design programs that looked ok along with some free ones, because that’s a big hobby of mine. It really doesn’t work very well. The toolset for decent CAD is fairly large. A tiny wrist menu isn’t going to cut it, and the ability to precisely manipulate nodes or vertices isn’t there. Same goes for even basic functions like desktops and normal computer functions. Sure, they work, but now you have to constantly be manipulating windows instead of having an extra monitor and kicking back in an office chair.
The AR aspect could be fun, but again you’re either the one creating this content via design software with the aforementioned difficulties, or you’re the one popping the HMD on to view what your home designer says would be a nice new kitchen cabinet set in your home. A useful tool, but not a substitute for a computing and design environment.
Have you ever included the innovative tablets into you CAD work?
I am unfamiliar with that term, so I assume not.
I remember reading that it supports mouse and keyboard, but the main input control are hand motions
Not sure what that means. My current HMD supports mouse and keyboard… but seeing as Apples HMD is standalone, I guess you can hook up a keyboard/mouse via buetooth? Mine works through the pc it’s hooked up to. Nice feature, but I wouldn’t call it earth shattering. Both VR headsets I’ve used support hand gestures, but I’ll assume Apple has improved upon detection and depth of vocabulary.
An overpriced VR headset.
Vr with passthrough
Most modern headsets have passthrough, its not some new feature. It is the part that Apple focused on though.
Arnt they all.
I got the original vive which just my beatsaber player but due yo having a wife a job and chit to get done it lives in its protective case and when I do get a min yo use it both controler batteries are dead due to time living in a box
They are. This said, $1,000 or less can buy you the best VR rig on the market right now. This thing is four times that.
Translation for those who haven’t just had a stroke -
Aren’t they all?
I’ve got the original Vive, which is just my ‘Beatsaber player’ but due to having a wife, a job, and shit to get done, it lives in its protective case. When i do get a minute to use it both controller batteries are dead due to time living in a box
Jesus, reading this made me feel like I wrote this.
I haven’t touched my headset in months
It’s why I ended up selling mine
Made a pretty penny on it due to when I sold it
I ended up selling it for $750 with the deluxe audio strap right around the time Halflife Alex came out
Reading it gave me a headache.
I gave my Index to my son who has the time and physicality to use it. I’m just too old for action gaming now.
I would have loved it if I was 30 years younger. I can do more from a chair with my desktop PC than an Apple Vision Pro can. It’s just another Apple Con.
If they are, then this vision pro is truly extortion.
VR requires a bit of setup, which is off putting. I dont have the space to have mine out all the time, theres also a shortage of high quality games. Waiting on Valve to push the envelope again.
Isn’t it for people who have ridiculously too much money to dump some of it? :-P
I know they look slick but, outside of clout chasers and brand fanatics, who spends $3500 on something without knowing why they’re buying it?
We should start calling these the “new oculus” or something. The marketing has been insane and neither Meta or Apple would benefit. It would be like when people called every console a Nintendo.
I’m going to the store do you want a Coke?
Cornetto
Peak conspicuous consumerism. They just need to make an app for it that does nothing but costs $5k like the infamous “I am rich” app when the App Store just opened.
It’s a native feature of the device that allows its user to get enormous amounts of attention, in real life and subsequently online, by simply wearing it in public.
Sounds horrible. I guess I’m not someone who seeks attention at any cost like some people, it public is the last situation I’d use this thing in. I would feel like a complete dumbass wearing it at a coffee shop and waving my hands around.
I want it like crazy. No chance I’ll wear it in public after I pull the trigger.
I probably would throw it in my backpack on hikes to do some captures of stuff like waterfalls and nice mountain views. They’re really nice and not something you can do with my regular camera.
How does that work? Does it stitch together panoramas?
So I asked, and you can’t do captures to use for the backgrounds with the headset (I’m guessing they use better equipment and maybe some processing), but it does do “spatial photos and video”. That was part of the demo in the store and they’re really impressive. The 15 pro can also capture a 3D video that still looks cool, but has noticeable less depth than the captures with the headset.
I’m not sure the exact technical details, but there are a whole bunch of cameras and other sensors. I’m assuming it uses all of them combined to capture the 3D photos. But there was a lot of depth in the version I saw in the demo.
Yep, no chance I’m drawing that much attention to myself.
The creator of the Apollo app recently tooted about wearing his out in public, getting noticed, and then secreting away to his hotel because the attention made him uncomfortable.
I’m probably more of an Apple fan than I like, but I can’t imagine owning one of these, let alone wearing it out in public.
It seems like Apple kind of forgot that good tech should first be good tech. They’re leaning heavy on this being a lifestyle item, but like - there’s no lifestyle out that hinges on looking like boring versions of the guy from ready player one.That makes sense… he’s a fairly normal person. I could see using the Vision Pro at a co-working place anyway, especially for someone who’s an iOS app developer.
It does seem like an oddly clunky device by Apple standards. I don’t find the overall idea abhorrent and could picture owning one down the road - perhaps after they’ve had a few years to make the device smaller and less expensive. I have no idea what I’d use it for though. Maybe once there are more exciting games than repackaged mobile games like Super Mega Fruit Ninja.
Oh, yeah. More power to him. A later post by him said that the app he’s developing for it has already paid for the cost of the headset. I fully believe he’s just out there working.
I’m hoping in a few generations, when they’ve got the form factor worked out, and the price under control, that it’ll be more to my liking.
I don’t think I would ever want to interact with someone while wearing it, but it could be great for all the things VR is great for, but without the creepy Facebook privacy invasion. (I know - Apple is slipping down that slope, too. They’re just not as far down it yet.)
Made the mistake of wearing the Vision Pro at a coworking space and some youths saw it through the window and started yelling “YOOOOO Vision Pro!! yoooooo” so now I’m going to my hotel
lmao, poor guy.
boring versions of the guy from ready player one.
Feels like there’s some redundancy here.
Its a 3500 dollar computer you wear on your face, that can only perform basic computing tasks which can more cheaply be performed on a cell phone, draws enormous amounts of attention to the user when used in public spaces, and both the ability to use it in public spaces and the attention drawing nature of it are marketed as pros.
Ok, so its now exceedingly clear that anyone who would get this thing is a wealthy idiot who has 0 experience with an impoverished community, as if you walked through a poorer area, you would just get mugged and have this high value device stolen from you.
And frankly at this point I would morally support that happening.
Not that it likely will, as anyone both dumb amd rich enough to have this happen to them generally has no kind of on foot commute through any such impoverished area.
It’s the same problem google glass had. It can be the most information rich and user friendly device in the world but if you look like a dingus wearing it, it will never catch on.
That’s what I thought about the elephant tusk looking AirPods yet here we are.
The Reality Distortion Field sometimes makes things hard to predict when it comes to Apple products.
I thought they looked like uncooked long macaroni.
I’m kind of surprised people felt that way about AirPods. I don’t remember that at the time. They seem quite mild to me at this point - people didn’t mind wearing regular earbuds around, why worry if there’s a cord or not?
People on here are wired.
Air pods just look like regular apple headphones just without wires.
They sure as shit look less goofy than my huge pixel buds that stuck an inch out of my ear.
You’re probably thinking of the current gen AirPods rather than the original (comparison).
Lol. So Gen 2 they were finally like “let’s shape this thing more like someone’s ear”. Then Gen 3 “Fuck it, ears are apparently different shapes let’s just go with the tried and true method that’s been around on $5 earphones for a decade”
Only “pros” have human ears. Everyone else must be mutants.
They look like puss leaking out of the ear to me.
What if I already look like a dingus?
Two dingi don’t make a right. Or something.
Dingi.
Pronounced ding eye? Dingii? Ding gee eye?
My brain hurts now.
It rhymes with dinghy.
But thats just a single dinghy.
If you pluralize that its either dinghies or dingii?
Meh, my autistic brain gets stuck on weird stupid shit like this.
Its like… If you have a donut, then a second donut, you have two donuts.
You can say two donut to be cutesy i guess?
Very hard for me to tell when being cutesy is appropriate.
One dingus, two dingi.
Don’t they cancel each other out?
Unfortunately they multiply instead of cancel
One times one is still one
i times i is -1, though. Imagine that!
Hmm. They might. Hadn’t thought of that.
This requires more research. You must buy one - for science! And, I guess, for “science “.
No, if you touch two dingii together you still have two dingii.
Two sexy, sexy dingii
Now the singular is “dingius?”
Then if you wear it you’ll be an even bigger dingus and make other dinguses look less dingusy. It would kinda be a public service of sorts I guess.
The lesser known brother of the Overton window - the Dingerton window.
Yeah, last thing I want is more attention while wearing those things and the chance that people will be able to hear the audio from the pr0n I’d be watching on it.
The masturbating in public might be a dead give away too
Public? No officer, i was masturbating on the moon!
Oh shit… I wonder if they see me doing it now? This subway car seems pretty full, but no one’s making eye contact… so I should be cool.
Actually, this makes me wonder if the Vision Pro would register your strokes as inputs while you were trying to do the deed?
Yes. And if you’re connected to the internet you’ll start summoning demons.
NY post is awful. Deliberately misconstrued this Reddit thread for clickbait.
Web based vr pron works.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/comments/1ahffm0/anyone_figured_out_porn_on_the_vision_pro/
Sideloading apps is also easy.
Where there’s a will, there’s porn. You can watch porn on any Apple device now. The issue I believe they’re calling out is a formatting issue with some video formats that porn uses, but that can be fixed with some conversions and probably more depends on 3rd party apps, which will likely show up at some point if they’re not already there.
The porn thing is overblown - it’s only about VR porn. You can watch all the porn you want in a video player or web browser. However people who don’t like Apple eagerly ate up this news, as if Apple banned porn on the device somehow.
And it’ll get snatched from you faster than an iphone
Simple solution. Kensington lock attached to the gonads. The device can helpfully warn others against theft with an LED projection on the wearer saying Big Cojone Security is active.
Apple Vision Pro Owners Are Struggling to Figure Out What They Just Bought
Im struggling to figure out why Apple Vision Pro Owners threw out $3500 on device without knowing what they can use it for
If I had so much money that 3500 dollars didn’t matter to me, I’d have one.
From what I’ve seen on it, I’d play with it for a day and forget about it.
Maybe an hour. Seems like it’s pretty cool but there’s nothing on the headset worth buying the headset for, even at half the cost. Even at a third.
If Apple actually developed the technology in a sensible way, and that’s a big if, it could actually be a really interesting product.
Right now it’s a bit limited as essentially it is a very very expensive second display which only works with Apple devices.
Apple puts out a product, Apple users buy the product. Nothing to figure out.
I just wonder how much Apple would make selling empty boxes and marketing them as such.
I’m sure that the iBox would turn out a fair profit.
They kinda do already; Apple sells a twisted piece of metal for $1k, and people buy it from them.
The new Apple Log®
“I love log!”
“But I was still embarrassed this weekend when I had to stick a straw in my wine glass.” Soda cans are doable; coffee mugs are not. The first must-have Vision Pro accessory is a very long metal straw
Or this works too
