Interesting, so in between lawsuits and takedowns they still do game related stuff from time to time huh?
One thing is certain,
due to all those lawsuits and takedowns,
I won’t be buying into their next console,
they won’t get a single dime from me anymore.What have they done recently that made you decide not to buy from them, that they haven’t already been doing for 30+ years to begin with? Nintendo’s lawsuits against emulator devs aren’t a new phenomenon; they’ve been shutting down emulator/ROM projects since the 90s.
They might have been doing it for longer then I’ve been aware of.
But this is a (small) list of things that caught my attention and made me despise them:
- Garry’s Mod takedowns
- Yuzu + Citra takedowns
- Relic Castle takedown
- Palworld Mod takedowns
- BOTW Mod takedowns
- PointCrow DMCAs
- Gary Bowser’s life ruined
But who will buy their $70 Wii U/Wii ports? :p
Nintendo consoles are great for piracy if that’s your bag
Probably why they’re going after the emulators. Sounds like this thing is still well within reach of emulation, probably in the first couple of months of release.
I think up until the 3DS, console hardware was still somewhat specialised, to the point where you can’t 100% accurately emulate old cobsoles. But at the level we currently are, consoles a little more than all-purpose computers. Emulating then is only down to having enough computational power.
A lot of old consoles are actually based on standard CPUs for the most part. Look at the history of the 6502 for example. Emulating the hardware can be done if time is taken to reverse engineer all the layers into an emulator.
Part of the issue, to me, can be if all the work is done and then copyright disputes arise- all work has to be removed from the public.
At this point you can write the circuitry in SPICE and the chips in Verilog and simulate the whole old console clock by clock down to the transistor level and still get a playable game out of it
Of course this is only viable until say… before the 3D era or so
Honestly, that sounds nice to me.
Wow, modern technology has really progressed, can’t wait to play tears of the kingdom still at 30 fps
You can already play it comfortably in 60 fps, but not on Nintendo hardware.
Don’t count your hens I remember when all the consoles had backwards compatibility, until they didn’t.
Every PlayStation generation had backwards compatibility followed quickly by a cheaper “slim” version without it.
The PS2 and PS5 slim versions didn’t mess with backwards compatibility, just the PS3 and PS4.
What backwards compatibility did the original PS4 have?
Thanks for the correction. I typically avoided the slim versions myself.
In this thread: completely out of touch gamers shitting on the world’s second best selling console of all time.
In this context “gamers” means “chronically online gamers”. the 3% of people they actually complain about this kind of stuff that would not change anyway
I thought you were exaggerating, and then I scrolled down.
Full backward compatibility is definitely great to see, if it didn’t have it I probably wouldn’t pick it up for a few years
What does that matter when they drip-feed the older games they own? 2 a month!? Virtual Console games that existed on Wii U and 3DS are simply not there…
Interestingly (and understandably), doesn’t actually say too much about internals. If the new target is 1080p portable, though, that’s a decent bump in specs.
By running games at 20 fps
20fps maximum, likely closer to 5fps average once the power is unplugged.
Honestly, i wouldn’t have expect anything different. Any lack of back-compatibility would have been a suicide move.
I hope games will be able to hit 60fps stable or offer some type of 40hz minimums for the higher refresh rate TVs.
Resolution is important, but if the games still perform like they do now, I’d be disappointed.
I think Nintendo will probably try to hit a great pricepoint for parents instead of high performance. The last powerful Nintendo console that I’m aware of was the Gamecube.
The Wii U was technically the most powerful console on the market for a year until the XB1 and PS4 came out.
I think that’s what we expected? I don’t think anything else would make sense. Although I miss small handhelds like GBA or 3DS.
And bigger lawsuits. This time against anyone remotely looking like any of the characters… Think twice before wearing a Mario red hat!.. looking at you red hat Linux and you MAGA, an Mr. Johnson with his running bandana and Mike too, always wearing a red hat of some sort which makes him look like Mario. Yeah Mike, we know what you’re doing and we’re coming after you and your blog!
I’m curious to see how this goes. Nintendo really is the only company I’d consider buying a console from anymore. Sure, they’re hardware isn’t very powerful, but it’s pretty hard to justify an Xbox or Playstation when a good gaming PC is a better long-term investment. Nintendo, for all if its faults, is constantly innovating what a system can be, while it’s competitors just release the same product with upgraded graphics.
That being said, the Switch 2 sounds like exactly that: a slightly upgraded switch without any real innovation. Usually, even Nintendo’s failures are interesting, like the Virtual Boy or the Wii U. They almost never release a slightly upgraded product (the only exception being the Game Boy Pocket, which they only made because the Virtual Boy flopped)
No matter what you think of Nintendo as a company, the industry does better when they’re pushing the envelope. For all the (well deserved) praise the Steam Deck gets, it wouldn’t exist if the Switch hadn’t laid the groundwork for it. I’d much rather see Nintendo take a big swing, like integrating AR or VR, into a less powerful system than see them push out a next gen Switch every 5 years. Hopefully there’s more to the Switch 2 than just a hardware upgrade, or else Nintendo (and maybe even consoles in general) might be in trouble.
I think you’re forgetting the Nintendo DS family.
One of them was literally just named “New Nintendo 3DS”.
Fair enough, I didn’t realize how much repetition there was in that line, although I would say that the 3DS was a pretty big innovation over the DS. It’s also a testament to their willingness to take big swings that the would go back to the concept of a 3D handheld after the Virtual Boy debacle.
Switch going to be conservative, meanwhile the deck clones are going all out. Wonder how those will run switch 2 emulators.
I regularly emulate Switch games on my RoG Ally Z1E, and it pulls it off so fucking well, I haven’t touched my Switch since I got the thing (it easily runs every title I’ve thrown at it at 60fps+higher res, plus I have the ability to mod games if I need to.)
I can’t imagine it’ll be too difficult for them to emulate Switch 2 games, assuming Nintendo don’t catch on to emulation developers too early.
Wonder how those will run switch 2 emulators.
Well, considering Nintendo is on a war path and legally threatening emulator devs, I doubt anyone will even attempt a Switch 2 emulator.
You underestimate how masochistic Nintendo fans are.
They will be working, Ninjas be damned.
Yuzu is still going. Shit got forked thousands of times the whole week leading up to the takedown. If the Nintendorks think that shit is dead, they have missed the entire point of open source.
They just made working on Yuzu more annoying, even discord was taking stuff down. But it’s not like discord alternatives like matrix don’t exist. Version control even more so.
I forked it on GitHub, GitLab, two private git servers, and Google Drive lmao. Shit isn’t going anywhere.
I’d put everything I own and my literal life betting someone will make one. It’s happened for literally everything else, the switch 2 won’t be different.
Would be hard going after devs that don’t blatantly make money off it like Yuzu did. Would also be pretty hard going after anonymous devs not using US based version control or just private. Lot of countries don’t care about DMCA either. Yuzu was just very stupid but Nintendo in the worst case isn’t all powerful either.
Cemu doesn’t seem to have a problem with profitability. The litigation was about circumvention of encryption and blatant piracy advocation.
Kind of tangential, but can you do local multiplayer when emulating the switch on a steam deck. Like can you have a 4 player Mario kart game?
I don’t see why you couldn’t. Just connect multiple controllers and configure accordingly.
Sure. Just need to use some external controllers obviously.
It probably won’t work to do local multiplayer with multiple consoles easily.
Ryujinx has an LDN build for that.
They will probably use some version of DLSS that’s hard to emulate.
Then we just disable it, and run the DLSS natively.
Emulators will just run at higher resolutions instead of blurry upscaling anyway.
Honestly I’ll “take” a low power switch 2 with the expectation of eventually emulating it with enhancements.
I am surprised it won’t be more of a hardware improvement since the switch was released in 2017 so there has been a whole lot of new hardware to choose from since then. I would imagine there would be bigger improvements in GPU with the better Radeon offerings.
Why would you think that? Nintendo has consistently had the weakest console hardware for the last 3 generations of consoles. People buy up anything with the Nintendo brand on it, what incentive do they have to make an actually good product? They already removed themselves from competing with Sony and Microsoft in a move great for their business but abysmal for consumers.
The problem is that Nintendo wants to be the affordable console parents buy for kids, and if the hardware costs $600 then it won’t be that.
I looked at the Switch price last week and it actually went up since release (in Canada anyway).
