Shit. I love that she came out for it but this means the race is closer than we thought. Fuxing vote people!
Harris is from Oakland. She gets it. There are nice dispensaries everywhere in Oakland. Even in very family-friendly or affluent parts of town.
You do understand she is the one that was jailing black men on possession charges because it made her look good, right?
Our policy was that no one with a marijuana conviction for mere possession could do any (jail time) at all,” said Paul Henderson, who led narcotics prosecutions for several years under Harris. Defendants arrested for the lowest-level possession would typically be referred to drug treatment programs instead of being charged, and weightier charges for marijuana sales would routinely be pleaded down to less serious ones, he said.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/11/kamala-harris-prosecuting-marijuana-cases/
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But then how will we criminalize a massive swath of our population and fill up all of the for-profit prisons?
Crack, meth etc.
Yo check this out. First, we stop sending them, saving tax dollars. Then, we release the ones inside, saving tax dollars. Then, we make it recreationally legal, creating tax dollars. Then we fuckin’ ban for profit prisons lol
I’ll believe it when it happens. I can only get my hopes up so many times
Saying, “we need to” is about as noncommittal as not saying anything at all. That’s like my girlfriend pointing out that the kitchen is a mess and me saying “yeah we really need to do the dishes”.
She has no control over it, the only thing she can do is what Biden did, ask them to investigate it and reschedule it. The executive branch does not make laws. That’s on the Senate/Congress. The number of people arrested for marijuana by the federal government isn’t the number of people in prison/jail for it. They are/and will be arrested by states. A law must be written to superseed state laws on marijuana… As the president cannot pardon people from state laws.
Vote for new senators/Congress members… The only 1 the president puts in place is the Vice President in the Senate.
Canadian here.
It’s been fully legal for… 5 years? We haven’t fallen apart yet!
There’s some people working on that, but they aren’t the stoner type.
Biden promised the same thing and then didn’t do shit. They clearly like to dangle this carrot without acting on it so they can continue to leverage it for votes.
Works every time!! I’m 40, I thought legalization was right around the corner 20 years ago.
Hey, we did it up in Canada. It’s 100% viable for the US to do the same. I can’t say for sure the dems will or won’t but it’s not unrealistic for them to follow through.
You should learn how the drug schedule system works. The president can’t just snap his fingers and make it legal.
They’re immune from persecution for official acts, though
Demand it be rescheduled, send the military to the houses of those responsible, shoot one for every hour it’s not done
The president is immune from prosecution for any official acts. There’s nothing that can stop them from being persecuted for them.
Then why are they even talking about it? They haven’t the power to do anything about it, so stop claiming you will do it.
Oh wait! Making empty promises fools idiots into voting for them.
He could absolutely put out a memo saying “if a DEA agent makes a weed arrest they will be fired” as an officer action. And besides, democrats presidents have been promising to reschedule for coming on 20 years now, the process can’t be 20-years complicated.
Actually up until about a decade or so ago it had been Republicans who were promising to reschedule weed. The Democrats had been firmly against it until very very recently.
Republicans were promising no such thing.
Decriminalization is not the same as legalization. In terms of legalization, he only supported legalization for medical marijuana which is the process he started. He actually pledged to move it to schedule 2 but has started the process to move it to schedule 3. That process is getting closer for what it’s worth. The DEA has really dragged it out but it’s nearly at the end with the public hearing in December
From the source that politico links to
he will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes
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reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts.
Copying my comment from elsewhere
Yea it’s still full of “is going to” and “process getting closer” stuff. He had 4 full years and didn’t do anything until halfway through his last year specifically so the next election cycle could continue to have a carrot to dangle. That was 3 more years of people having their lives permanently ruined.
The existing law outlines the complicated process. Biden cannot do it instantly. Here’s an overview of the process that’s already been done so far
Now the rule has been proposed so we’re at the end of that graph. That’s what I mean when I say we’re close. Here’s the actual rule making procedure to do the rescheduling
Additionally, it’s worth noting that earlier, dem senate leader was also perusing a legislative path until it was clear they couldn’t get the votes. Hence later executive action
Did you even read the previous comment
Your infographic doesn’t mention the DEA at all. I guess Biden was just asking them because he wanted to waste time and run out the clock.
The DEA has really dragged it out
Color me surprised. It’s not like they’ve made millions by confiscating people’s possessions in the name of “the drug war”. Oh wait, that’s exactly what they’ve been doing since they were established. Seriously, fuck the DEA.
I would like to reiterate that A LOT of the entrenched Cannabis industry assholes that run the business are pro-Trump. I’m talking well over a majority of the most psychotic Trump supporters I know are directly involved in the interstate Cannabis market. They are even more prone to conspiracy brainrot than the average Yall’Qaeda folks.
I’m sounding the alarm for the millionth time that the Cannabis industry attracts some of the most degenerate, unethical, fucked up people into positions of power. I’ve said this like 10 times on Lemmy at least, and I always get downvoted into oblivion even though I have more direct experience with the Cannabis industry than 99.9999% of people on earth.
Trust me when I say a lot of these people are fully fucked in the head, and giving them legitimacy is a problem. While I am still 100% pro-legalization, I am also aware of the dark side of that equation as well. There is a lot of exploitation and evil in the industry. It needs to be unionized, and there needs to be common sense regulation that is not captured by the corporations within the industry itself.
Source: Worked in the black, gray, and recreational Cannabis industry for 14 years. Have directly facilitated the sale of tens of millions of dollars worth of Cannabis. Worked with thousands of different people, and hundreds of different vendors over that time.
I’m sounding the alarm for the millionth time that the Cannabis industry attracts some of the most degenerate, unethical, fucked up people into positions of power
I worked at a delivery dispensary for like 2 months in 2021 or so:
- our main product was one which the owner also owned, but only under the table through a kid of his, so we’d regularly get weird orders that didn’t match what we were getting in product, and heavily push the garbage house brand for him. Pretty sure money laundering was happening
- the safe was regularly left unlocked and open. The safe was in the cage (where the weed is) which was also unlocked and open. So was the back door ~10ft away from that, and the roll-up ~20ft from that. Any random homeless person could easily have sprinted in, yoinked money, weed, and bolted. Well, until:
- right after I quit the guy who hired me (the “co owner”) took 10k cash out of the safe AND the wife of the girl in accounting and dipped, idk if they ever found that guy actually
- they absolutely were trafficking significant amounts of hard drugs as well
I have a mixed opinion on this. One the one hand, I don’t like drugs because of the dependence it’s builds on its users, the harmful medical effects in the long term, and how many people use it while driving or doing other dangerous tasks (for those that cause incapacitation). This isn’t just my opinion for marijuana, but for other drugs such as alcohol and tobacco.
However, I don’t want people who do use it to end up paying massive fines or ending up in jail, because ultimately they are victims. Of course, the reason this isn’t the case for alcohol and tobacco is because of its historical foundation in the US.
So I guess I’m left wondering what is an ideal solution for this problem? My best guess is to decriminalize, but also help improve resources available for treatment of addiction and education of its medical effects.
Just legalize it all. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean literally anything, no offense to you. People should be educated on drugs and safety, let them make their adult decisions
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean literally anything, no offense to you.
I get where you’re coming from, but that’s some really shitty delivery.
Bigger picture, if one isn’t to form their own opinions based on world view, what are they to form opinions based on?
Ultimately, all your comment says is, “I don’t care about your opinions and don’t value them at all. Instead of anything you think or have to say, here’s what I think and what I have to say.”
I totally came off as abrasive, my bad, but I think anyone’s opinions on what you would do or think others should do to their own body shouldn’t be the law. I think that’s where we get issues like abortion rights, and, well, drugs being so criminalized.
Yeah, that’s fair. There’s also plenty of other things that are bad for you in similar ways, like ultra processed food. Maybe the better way is to regulate the production and trade so the harm can be reduced, like what the FDA does.
Last year Michigan received about 290 million in weed taxes, around 90 went to municipalities and county governments, 100 million to schools, and 100 million to roads.
It’s crazy to me how cheap it is. Like, they could double the taxes and it would still feel incredibly affordable when compared to alcohol.
What are the prices in Michigan? One of the complaints in Colorado is that the prices (for those without red cards, anyway) were set so high that some people were still resorting to the black market.
It was cheap and high quality in Colorado for the first few years, just long enough to kill off the black market. Now it’s not as strong and has doubled in price. I only do edibles so I can’t speak to the plant quality but the THC content per serving gets lower every year it seems.
I personally think it’s a good thing. Some of that stuff was fucking military grade just because they could.
Michigan is dirt cheap. $80 ounces are pretty common. $40 for an ounce of shake if you avoid border towns like Monroe. Even the Monroe dispensaries are cheaper than the Ohio ones that just opened, so everyone in NW Ohio still travels north for it since they dave moeny.
If you shop around you can get joints for one dollar. Way cheaper than the black market
Yeah edibles near me are about 6x as expensive as buying them in Michigan. And as a consequence, Ohio’s black market is still alive and well. And obviously illegal interstate transportation too.
If you could do it as president, just make Joe do it immediately. We might not get another chance if you wait.
Mfs always wait until election time to say they’ll do cool stuff then never fucking do it.
You might notice that Kamala Harris is not in fact Joe Biden. Even if she wants to do it, that doesn’t mean she can make Joe do it.
It’s not immediate. There’s a process involved in rescheduling or descheduling. Biden started the process to move it to schedule 3 in 2022 which would efficiently make it legal medically. The DEA has been dragging it out as much as possible. There’s a public comment period in December
Biden has also not publicly said he wants full legalization, so convincing him to do so may be difficult. As senator, harris pushed for full legalization, so it’s clear that she has a very different attitude about it to Biden
How long have Democrats been saying this now?
No democratic as a presidential nominee has publicly stated they would fully legalize it until now as far as I am aware. Biden has made moves to reschedule, but he has not said something like this
Bernie didn’t say he’d legalize weed? I’ve got a tough time believing that tbh
Edit: I’m a dumbass lol “nominee” does not in fact mean “candidate” 😂
Believe it when I see it.
“Maybe when they’re stoned they’ll stop asking about Gaza”
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