Trump is winning all these states and look at the percentages. How?
I’m so tired of being the Cassandra of my social life - I call this shit out years ahead of time and nobody believes me or takes my analysis seriously because I said that I’m a communist. Like, holy shit, yes, I am a communist - I want workers to own the entirety of society. That’s the exact opposite of these fascist fucks who essentially want bosses, money and corps to control society. I’m a communist because I saw this fascism coming, I recognized the patterns and incentive structures in society, and realized communism is the best way to defeat fascism - we have to decisively win the class war. And this is a war, don’t confuse it. Mark my words, now that things have gotten to this point, massive violence is inevitable soon.
They are willing to kill you to maintain the status quo. If you are not willing to do the same then you have already lost.
It sucks to be right about horrid things. You can’t gloat. You can’t be happy. You can only be in bigger misery knowing how to solve it, and knowing no else noticed until it was too late.
This is our life. We were right. No one cared. Now we’re all in danger.
I’m with you time for that strike. We need to shut the economy down. No one should go to work. Shut fucking highway down the whole nine yards.
You can probably just wait until like Feb 2025 for trump to shut the economy down.
I don’t think people will commit massive violence to save their rights. The majority just conforms to the regime (which many of them voted for and are comfortable with) and the minority is too weak. I think they’re going to obey and suffer quietly rather than risk direct oppression. Just like in other totalitarian countries.
This makes me wonder tho. In movies, the US president is often portrait as whoever is president. During the clinton and bush years, the president was a white haired older guy. Later it was sometimes portrait as either a black person or just obama himself. Before all that it was often just basically nixon. But there was never the fat idiot. Now the fat idiot is gonna be president for 8 years, is hollywood just gonna ignore that or is anyone having the balls to portray the president as a incompetent grossly overweight idiot?
I’m actually happy for this, and hate saying this but the women who voted for him and the Latino/as that voted for him will most likely suffer the consequences of their actions. They won’t have the right to complain
Bread and circuses. Or Big Macs and iPhones if you want the modern equivalent.
He’s found a massive influx of voters over the last 4 years, outperforming his 16 and 20 numbers in most counties nationwide. How, where did these voters come from?
You’re such a DUMB Libtard! How could anyone NOT like Mass Deportations and Mass Rapes and Mass Financial Hardships?
He activated them. He grew his base. He took nonvoters and turned them into voters…
He did the thing progressives have been begging the DNC to do since 2016.
Nothing motivates people aged 20-40 to vote like small business tax cuts. /s
If nonvoters found him appealing, then they were never going to vote for DNC.
Let me think about what I know about a trump supporter in my family who wasn’t one in 2016, but was die hard in 2020 and 2024. Nothing has ever been his fault. He used to buy into supernatural urban legend stuff. I don’t know if he still does. He had no job in 2020 but still thinks he was doing better than in 2016, so his own employment either doesn’t matter to his well-being, or he’s detached from reality. I mean I think it’s the second. He didn’t used to be racist (10 years ago), but I’m pretty sure he quotes fbi crime statistics without context now. I’m not sure how you reach that. He used to be moderate or even left of american center, but now all the news that is not Tim Poole is fake. Oh and he was part of an ayn rand sex cult for a year there. He still believes her stuff despite having been kicked out by the leader. I don’t think he’s newly mobilized though so whoever was this go around may be different. I don’t know if it matters now. I feel like organizing may get some crack down in the near future. Best case is he’s so incompetent that he can’t implement the policies he said he will and people can vote freely in the future.
Friend, could you kindly use paragraphs? I’d like to read what you’re saying, but It makes your text vary hard to parse without.
I added in some paragraphs
He probably listened to conservstive media, enjoyed being angry, and the repetition brainwashed him.
I guess I forgot to mention it, but he has also always had a temper.
Advertising, marketing, promotion … of you can convince 400 million morons that Coke is better than Pepsi you can sell them anything … including a president.
This wasn’t a contest about who had more charisma … it was just a matter of who had the better advertising and marketing campaign.
I think it was a matter of who was willing to go low. American people are not civilly minded, they appreciate hyperbole, satire, and vicious descriptive insults versus those they don’t like. This isn’t just Republicans who like these things, and one could even argue they don’t understand satire. Tim Walz was the energy we needed and the muzzle they put on him was like an enthusiasm sponge. When you say your enemies are good people who deserve a cabinet seat you’re fucking lost. Nobody in this climate gives a fuck about civility except the talking heads and politicians worried that making a stand needs to be proceeded by a ballot questionnaire and a sacrificial lamb.
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Waiting for half of Lemmy to blame me, a Harris voter (unfortunately), who lives in a red state, for not telling enough people that “her genocide will be better”. The democratic party has swung and missed for their voting base for at least the last 4 election cycles, maybe they start blaming themselves for a change.
Lmao, and here I thought Harris was a perfect candidate. At least, that’s what I’ve been told on here the last few months
Lmfao, no never. This will always be our fault. I’m far enough left that the Democratic Party looks to me like the Republican Party looks to neoliberals. I’ve been forced at basically gunpoint to vote against my interests and against my conscience for three elections in a row now. Three times I’ve voted for the Democratic candidate that I did not believe legitimately earned their nomination. I should be allowed to have that be disqualifying, but the goddamn Nazis won’t let me.
And two times I’ve seen the Democratic party and base viciously attack the left for their own shortcomings, both during the primaries and after 2016. I’m betting this third time will be the same.
I’m so fucking tired of being blamed for the shortcomings of the lesser evil.
All of that just to see the “lesser” evil shift consistently to the right every election cycle. There has to be a red line at some point, a point where there’s no significant ideological difference, but no
I’m going to expect it tomorrow morning.
What a fucking shit show.
Democracy dies in broad daylight, it turns out.
Everyone who voted for Trump knew exactly what they did. Everyone who didn’t show up to effectively vote against him had every way of knowing exactly what they were doing as well.
No excuses. This is America. Maybe they just hate women. Maybe they simply love fascism. Doesn’t matter. This is who they are.
The next years will be a fight unlike anything. And no matter how hard the better angels of American society fights, it will still be a tragedy unlike anything anything we can currently imagine.
Buck up, it’s only 4 years /s
I made a bet with a coworker that he would win. I don’t want that, but I just made $50
State polling showed they were really close in these ten swing states, so no surprise.
Our economy, our proxy wars that we are funding, and shifts in political views for some due to all these conflicts might have something to do with this.
Harris was not that popular in her presidential run in 2020 as well.
The data will be interesting when it is compared to 2016/2020/2024; I wonder if voter turnout increased or decreased!
Nate Silver said a few days ago that the pollsters were making the race look closer than it actually was
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nate-silver-cheating-pollsters-are-putting-finger-on-the-scale/
Trump lies constantly, has 34 felony convictions, can’t form sentences, and is a sex pest. The fact that he has so much support is a sign that half of the country are fucking morons.
Republica voter suppression was probably the tie breaker, but the fact that people keep saying he is better despite reality showing things were worse under Trump proves we have way too many idiots in this country.
All the states that added abortion rights to their constitution but put Trump and Republican congresspeople in are going to all pikachu face when they pass a national abortion ban.
Just a bunch of fucking idiots.
The working class voted as expected; no need to talk down to people that don’t vote how you want them to.
I think it is better to continue to talk with people with diverse ideas different from ours and look at where we may agree.
That is why it is important to escape self-built echo chambers. Many independent journalists and commentators spoke about the increased support Trump was getting from minorities and the disdain people had for Kamala Harris.
I am looking forward to how third parties performed and to see if more people become anti-genocide or anti-war.
The working class voted as expected; no need to talk down to people that don’t vote how you want them to.
They deserve it.
It seems to just help divide the working class and to continue to increase tribalism.
You do you!
Sounds like you deserve Trump, as well.
Of course it’s real, y’all have been echo chambering obviously false articles about Trump is doomed for the last 3 months. What did you think was going to happen?
echo chamber
This isn’t Reddit.
/c/[email protected] is the strongest argument for Reddit not being bottled and liberals are actually this dumb
Return2Ozma gets hate for posting anti-trump and anti-harris, despite it’s clear he hates trump and voted for Harris.
Anyone who lightly criticizes Harris was a trump supporter who spoke fake news. It turned out that when a lot of random internet users have the same feelings, it might be based in reality.
Bro it’s worse
Turns out Republican lite isn’t popular, who knew
There’s nothing Republican Lite about accepting an endorsement from Chenney, that’s full strength Republican.
They even have Trump winning the popular vote. So Harris is doing worse then Hillary. I knew them campaigning with Liz Cheny was a fucking mistake. The Democrats can’t help but move to the right. Instead of trying to get more progressive votes they rather try court Republicans. Republicans are nazi wouldn’t surprise me to learn that Liz in co were really Trumper doing this to help him. .
Doesn’t help when half million morons voted for Jill Stein. The fucking Russian backed politician.
I voted for Stein lol
Your part problem then moron.
I want you to know that the dems could have had my vote. I walked my ballot in the snow to the polling station.
I do not vote for genocide. I do not vote for conservatives.
you literally did both of those things by casting a ballot for stein
Oh?
Harris would have lost even if Stein wasn’t in the election.
Voting because of one issue is exactly how you get manipulated congrats
Lol. I would have voted for Harris if she’d come out for an arms embargo. I wouldn’t have believed her but I would have voted for her. There are many reasons I would not have voted for her.
You just killed off all of Palestinian. When Israel kills them all they will have you to thank. You have blood on your hands. Hope your happy and smig with your throw away vote. Fucking traitor. Stien came all out and Russia all but said they install her to help Trump. Speaking of which you just killed off Ukraine as well congratulations.
My hands are clean. If I’m a traitor to your genocide candidate I wear that with pride.
Everyone’s hands are clean. The workers at Raytheon producing weapons that kills Palestinians, the people who finance that through taxes, whoever flies the plane or steers the ship delivering the weapons to Israel and even the American soldiers training Israeli forces with the new weapons.
Everyone of you can give plenty of reasons why they’re not at fault. My German ancestors did the same in 1945. They “didn’t know” or they couldn’t have done anything against it or they voted for the social democrats in the last election or or or…
Whoah, easy there cowpoke!
Ah yes, Shill Stein the Russian stooge. Good job moron
Did Rachel maddow tell you that
Nah, having more than 1 braincell told me that
Trump winning the popular vote would be hilarious.
Btw, I am not being petty. I am Ukrainian so we got a lot at stake. But that being said most Ukrainians (and the government) thought Trump would win.
You know who I blame?
Facebook.
They’ve abandoned cable, so where does all my conservative family live. Where do they get news and basically their entire world-view?
Facebook.
And they live in a totally different universe.
Meta made mega bucks electing Donald Trump because he’s so engaging. Trumpism is just too profitable. And I’m not sure I can forgive that in my lifetime.
Mainstream media did the same. Trump didn’t need raise money for ads. Every major news stations did nothing but give Trump front page coverage.
Not just mainstream ads, this very same Lemmy community wouldn’t shut the heck up about Trump and kept posting about him and Musk. And we’re gonna do it again for another 4 years, then act surprised when the next MAGA wins again.
Next mega there wont he a next time this it. He didn’t lie when he told the Christian right that they wouldn’t have to vote no more in 4 years they he will have it fixed.
Bingo.
I get downvoted for saying “there’s no such thing as bad attention,” and here we are. This is 2024, there is no such thing as bad engagement. Even the US presidency is a straight-up name recognition contest.
X too.
X’s supreme dictator openly campaigns for Trump. He even promised to pay millions of dollars to help people vote for Trump. So yeah, I reckon that probably had an effect.
Rural areas tend to be less wait and faster results than urban areas.
This goes doubly so in red states that have blue cities.
Every election the Republicans get a huge headstart because the first to report are the most likely to vote R.
The cities take forever, because there’s a shit ton more votes to count.
Also a lot of states arent allowed to count mail in ballots after 8 pm or some shit, so expect a pump on the east coast sometime in the morning when they start getting counted again.
Yes, but they’re not winning the cities by anywhere near the margin they need to to pull it out.
This is really fucking bad, even if they find an ass to pull a W out of.
66M+ voted for a fascist-wannabe self-proclaimed dictator-moron. No matter how it ends, it’s fucking embarrassing.
Going to be a god tier comeback if it happens. Harris is underperforming against 20 Biden in nearly every metric.
Philadelphia County is the big one for me.
Biden was 81% of that vote, but Harris is only 78%. If Harris is losing vs Biden in the most important county and with a -4% statewide deficit and 78% counted it’s really not good.
I’m not sure where the votes can come from to get Harris PA. It’s still too close to call but vs 2020 everything is worse.
I really believe it’s because Harris a woman. Guess this country is still to racist and sexiest for a woman president.
More than that.
Half Indian and half black will be seen as a race traitor to Indian nationalists.
The way Democrats look at racism is fucking stupid and ignorant. You need to learn how minorities look at racism to understand.
Look at the reporting percentages for GA, PA, WI: 94%, 87%, 83%, respectively. That is not a lot of votes left to count.
