Who gets the swing states?
Put them on a swing and see what happens, obviously.
California would do so much better on its own I feel like
Blue states pay more in taxes than they receive, and vice versa with red states. We are literally funding them dragging us all backwards.
5th largest economy on the planet by itself.
Russia has a smaller economy. Go ahead. Make it without us. Dumb fucks.
Can… can Washington come? The western half at least?
Washington and Oregon are basically Very Northern California.
Most of the Western states would probably end up joining overall. I dont see Idaho lasting too long being one of the few remaining states that far west for example.
Utah and Idaho definitely wouldn’t join California. Both are heavily Mormon/religious, conservative, and backward. Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada probably would.
What’s the split on ports in blue states vs red states?
Depends on how long hurricane season is. And how much more powerful hurricanes will get.
Pretty much all in Blue states - the Red states have no pacific access and lode out on the eastern megacity.
New Orleans though. It’s probably the most important port in the country
And how long till it’s under water with no blue state or blue state taxes to bail it out? Same with Florida. Good riddance to a buncha bad.
It’s certainly up there - LA and TX have a lot of shipping capacity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ports_in_the_United_States
It would be great if Canada could peacefully annex “America” and leave 4th World Dumbfuckistan to themselves.
What did Colorado ever do to deserve this?
My ex girlfriend was born and raised in Colorado so maybe that’s a good enough reason to leave them there /s
Lauren Boebert
And we are very sorry…
Don’t feel too bad my district gave us Elise Stefanik. She may not be as in your face with her crazy, but she’s possibly more dangerous.
Oh no, please, don’t
Mmmhmmmm “States rights until they won’t go along with our bullshit”.
I’m hoping Cascadia finally gets realized. I want to uninvite Idaho, though.
Boise is pretty rad tho
Too bad you guys and Idaho are gonna be New NorCal.
They can enjoy both potatoes and Drag Queen Story Time.
We already are already. (Seattle)
The rest of the US doesn’t deserve California’s economy
Oh look, a broken clock.
How many times do we need to keep this nation “united” at gunpoint before we acknowledge that the science and reason people are incompatible with the supply side Jesus and racial hatred people? We can’t stand one another, and time only deepens that division until bloodshed, over and over.
You can’t educate those cultures that refuse to be educated or have their children educated. That kind of change, born of desperation and constant struggle inflicted from your own culture’s values needs to come from within. The Red States need their Martin Luther “maybe we shouldn’t punch ourselves in the face every day” reformation moment, and it isn’t rational for those that see beyond their ignorance and superstition be dragged down with them for generations until they get there. Blue states propping them up only prolong comfort in their ignorance.
You can’t force cultural evolution or save the willfully ignorant from their own willlfull ignorance from outside on Alabama anymore than you can on Afghanistan, all you do is create a common enemy for them, as we continue to experience.
I have held this stance for many years (am not American though), and everytime I proposed it someone from the US told me “Nooo we’ve had that in the past and we fought a civil war in order to stay together!!! We can’t split!” and I think it’s like a broken marriage that was never easy to begin with that’s just being held together because the parties are too stubborn to say “ok well let’s split up”. It’s an unhealthy relationship.
Canada has given the world some of the worst extremists, racists, etc. (Proud Boys being one of the more recent horrible things we’ve exported)
There’s a group that popped up during the convoy called diagolon. They posted this way back which seems like how things would work (a path from Russia to Florida)
They claim it’s a joke, but isn’t it always just a joke.
Pretty sure BC, VA, and CO are not going along with that.
Diagolon sounds too much like where Harry bought his wizard supplies.
Why do these idiots always pick names that just make them sound even dumber?
Because they are dumb and uncreative
Why do these idiots always pick names that just make them sound even dumber?
I mean, “Proud Boys” are obsessed with men hanging out with manly men because something something bros and not being gay.
Then named themselves after a show tune?
About the only thing that would make me happier than to have the entire pacific west coast secede and create a sovereign nation would be for Trump to do it for us so we don’t have to fight a war over it. You want us gone? Please, show us the exit, we’ll be on our way. No takebacksies.
This made me feel good to think about. And the downsides about why we could never do it are now equally matched and going to happen anyway.
Only issue would be public health stuff, but that requires cooperation across the board.
Can the Northeast join? No one in MA for example wants to be part of MAGA Land.
Iirc one of MA electoral votes will go to Trump, ao nlt really no-one
You mean Maine? MA doesn’t split.
I am too confidently incorrect sometimes. I’m not from the US, I thought you meant Maine.
Maine is, sadly, ME. It’s very weird. I think MN is Minnesota even tho MI feels more sensible but it’s Michigan. I think they did their best given what they had to work with :(
Too many M states, shoulda diversified.
I’m hoping for Cascadia.
How is it not illegal for her to say these things? Like is that a threat against the United States?
A known traitor threat against the United States was allowed to run for and be elected president. This country doesn’t have laws except for the poor and it certainly doesn’t have a functioning system of justice or even government at this point.
Depends.
Protected by the first amendment, one can legally advocate for the dissolution of the Union through bicameral ratification outlined constitutionally. To advocate for armed insurrection or violent overthrow of the federal government is sedition and considered quite illegal.
Is it really illegal if the law isn’t enforced? Is anything a Republican does illegal anymore?
I’ve always loved this quote about conservatism:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
- Francis M. Wilhoit
I was told there is nothing in the constitution allowing for secession.
You"re correct. I was wrong. The Constitution would have to be amended to allow for it first.
The United States Constitution does not explicitly provide a method for the dissolution of the union. In fact, the Constitution is quite silent on the topic of secession or dissolution.
However, there are a few relevant provisions and historical precedents that are often cited in discussions about the possibility of dissolution:
Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1: This clause, also known as the “Guarantee Clause,” states that the United States shall guarantee to every state a republican form of government. Some argue that this clause implies a constitutional obligation for the federal government to maintain the union and prevent secession.
The Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2): This clause establishes the Constitution and federal laws as the supreme law of the land, which some interpret as precluding the possibility of secession.
The Civil War and the 14th Amendment: The American Civil War (1861-1865) was fought, in part, over the issue of secession. The 14th Amendment (1868) was ratified in the aftermath of the war and includes language that could be seen as prohibiting secession. Section 3 of the 14th Amendment states that no person who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States shall be eligible to hold federal or state office.
Texas v. White (1869): In this landmark Supreme Court case, the Court ruled that secession is not permissible under the Constitution. The decision stated that the Constitution looks to an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible states.
While these provisions and precedents suggest that the Constitution does not provide a clear method for dissolution, they do not necessarily rule out the possibility of secession or dissolution entirely. Some argue that secession could be achieved through a constitutional amendment or a negotiated agreement between the federal government and a state or group of states.
It’s worth noting that, in practice, the possibility of dissolution is often seen as a highly unlikely and potentially destabilizing event. The United States has a long history of federalism and a strong tradition of national unity, which has generally been maintained through a system of shared power and compromise between the federal government and the states.
These people are very much against a lot of things on the constitution…and the bible…and fake-champion both…ugh
“illegal” is rather a quaint notion.
So they know that Texas doesn’t have a GDP high enough to even run all their red catastrophies, right? I’m kidding, I know they don’t know. They probably also don’t know that CA would be the third largest super power if they ever let us go. Which they won’t. At all.
California should secede and kick off the great (terrible) balkanization of the formerly united states
NCR & The North East republic
Vs
Yeehawistan
Unfortunately that would cause a Pakistan-Bangladesh situation with a country connected by airlines. Except worse because Illinois, Minnesota, Colorado, and New Mexico would be enclaves in trumpistan
I don’t know, they are certainly close to dumb enough to sign off on it. Or, you know, we can just do it and ignore the rules since they are all so fond of that now.
Californians are in an abusive relationship. Blamed for everything and not allowed to leave
And we pay them more money than we use for ourselves.
Just let us have our fires in peace damnit!
Don’t threaten me with a good country.
Can Canada take the coastal states?
Can Minnesota come along too? We’re basically in Canada here already.
You folks talk with a Canadian dialect.
Only if you bring a hot dish.
Mac and cheese please
I think the Canadians call that “Kraft Dinner”.
Yes. But please make sure to throw away your trash before you come live with us.
Yeah, divorce yourself from all those states that send you money because you’re too backward to care for yourself. Sounds like a great idea!
